Mr. Mark Provo, The Actual Supreme Being?

[JayaHanuman]

So, once again Mr. Mark Provo is asking for attention from the Adidam community. And not anonymously this time either.

I said once again. Why? Because he has done it before in April 2000 when the "Actual Supreme Being" appeared online and began posting rather outrageous statements about Adi Da and the Adidam community. And having watched this debacle unfold then, having read and recalled some of that material on the internet myself, I would like to ask Mr. Provo:

JUST WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

Unfortunately all that remains of the Actual Supreme Being internet posts are remnants that someone archived in snippets located here:
http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/richard/selectedcorrespondence/sc-actualsupremebeing.htm

And here (notice the dates):
http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/richard/generalcorrespondence/page09.htm

The ASB, in his online rants against Adi Da, was especially obsessed with the idea of negative numbers (-1), and of the supracausal plane (whatever that is), and the associated idea that Adi Da happened to be some sort of inverse realizer poisoning the universe, and most especially life events on earth.

Almost all of this crap about black magic originated with the material posted online by the ASB, as documented here in the Daism Forum archives from April 2000.

Searching in the old Daism Forum archives for "Actual Supreme" and "Supreme Being" during that month of April 2000, these are the posts and threads that can be found there.

(And what a difference in the quality of posts from that time compared to now? I must say...)

Read on and see what material was published online then. It hasn't really changed much since then - at all. (Meaning that he must still have his files on that computer of his.) It is the very same, even some direct quotes which he has included in his most recent package post online. That same material appears here in these posts.

http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7574&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7577&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7617&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7626&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7643&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7644&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7653&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7658&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7663&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7701&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7662&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7665&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7668&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7670&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7674&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7692&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7693&row=
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7694&row=

If you go to these links below in the archives and search for ASB, you will get a wallop of posts and comments about the internet activity of the ASB during that time:

(archives 04.15.00 to 05.11.00)
http://lightgate.net/archives/daism-01/
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-13/daism-13.mv

(Is this enough attention yet for you, Mark Provo, or would you like some more? Should we all be thinking that you are Shiva, the Supreme Being, manifesting into the Cosmos?)

Probably there are also copies of the ASB material in the 'Crank File' of the Adidam archives, as the ASB continued sending out letters to the Adidam centers in the U.S. telling them all that they must leave Adi Da, burn his photos and other black magic materials and now begin worshipping the Actual Supreme Being, and that Adi Da's guru was about to interfere with him or something like that -- Adi Da's "guru" the "Actual Supreme Being" (who needed to solicit money at the time from his readership online - little changes over time, huh?). In any case, the ASB seemed to document pretty well here in the Daism Forum archives that he had been writing and addressing letters mailed out to the community, because all of that is documented in the forum archives from posters who read and copied all of those pronouncements into their posts on the forum.

Everything seems to be in there, what remains of those posts. He is asking for money. He accuses Adi Da of being a Satanic, Evil, or Dark Force on earth. He is asking for attention, and getting it. And he is likewise making it clear that he himself is the Actual Supreme Being, and not Franklin Jones. Is this guy dangerous? What else has he recently written?

And here were the follow up articles from the Oregonian when he failed to prove Fermat's last theorem in his motel room for over 800 days:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1146880510272131.xml&coll=7
http://www.oregonlive.com/weblogs/editors/index.ssf?/mtlogs/olive_editor/archives/2006_05.html

Make of all that what you folks will...
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[dcb]

Excellent detective work, JayaHanuman.

Do you believe Mr. Provo has a mild or a major case of inflation? :-)

BTW, regarding "Provo"... I associate that word with polygamy and incest. A bad sign indeed. :-)

May all beings find their nonbeingness, and exhibit much less concern with their special identities, and that includes Mark, Frank, Elias, me, and everyone else around here.

Shanti...

[JayaHanuman]

dcb: If that was detective work, then this sort of speculation is simply downright scary. Mark Provo seems to have a large beef with male realizers like Adi Da and Andrew Cohen.

Did Mark Provo psychically attack Adi Da back in 2000 on the same day on which Zen Master Rama died in 1998? April 12?
http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-13/daism-13.mv?module=view&viewid=8948&row=

What is interesting is that Adi Da did collapse on the boat in Seattle on this day, apparently a few days after his Mummery ritual in which the whole community was involved for about 9 hours, and then this ASB starts posting and mailing his letters around the very same time.

1) What did Adi Da expect or want to happen after doing this Mummery business? and 2) What did Mark Provo actually intend in posting this stuff online then, and again now?

And what was it that Adi Da said of what he was doing then around the time he had collapsed and was staying at Lopez Island? The negative "dark forces" were invading his body from above, before he could transform them as he normally would do. That is, perhaps, something directed against him. But from who? And why would this happen? Someone with a grudge? Or sudden anger? Or simply the need to call a whole community on its BS? Was it Karma?

http://lightmind.com/thevoid/oct2001.html
AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: I've been eating the world and suffering it in My own Form for decades, and that is the reality of this Body. It has gone beyond the time when I can sustain this Body in the absence of devotion. Instead of My Presence here, evil is taking over. [October 6, 2001]

AVATAR ADI DA SAMRAJ: I am Working with a dark force. Not Star Wars bullshit. It's a negative possession, and it's taking over the world. That force is what led to the Lopez Island Event. It was a direct encounter.

And so there must be a response from my devotees. It is up to you all to come up to the real process, and make Hermitage, and approach Me with gifts, not plans without results. You must handle My Circumstance, so that I can Do My Spiritual Work undisturbed. And you must bring Me right gifts of response and conversion of the world. [October 6, 2001]

http://www.easydeathbook.com/adi-da-6.asp
The Lopez Island Event was the Demonstration of . . . My Establishment in the Position of (and in Perfect Identification with) My Own Sphere and Divine Self-Condition of Being.

Since that Event, I have only been what could be described as "Looking Back" to here from There. I did not return. The view returned — and there were various super-normal phenomena associated with the returning of the view of conditional beings — but I did not return.

I Stand in My Own Sphere and Self-Domain, the "Bright" Itself. And the fact that I continue to Appear here in this bodily (human) Form is simply a Radiation of My Person.

My continuing Appearance here is not any longer (in any sense) a manifestation of a born condition. Rather, My Un-born Divine Person is Manifested As This Body.

— "My Unborn Divine Person
Is Manifest as This Body"
Easy Death (p. 390)

I am going to float the idea that all of Mr. Provo's observed synchronicity has been self-created by him to precipitate events on the mental plane into manifestation physically in time, but he cannot see it because of where he is sitting. What he has done here with this new document is to create the expectation of something to happen in the future, and he is trying to support it by drawing connections between seemingly unrelated (acausal) symbols that appear to point back to the inevitability of events happening in the past. This is essentially the use of psychic influence to move against other people (since Adi Da is apparently evil) albeit through the mind. And this is where Mr. Provo appears to be trapped, although he seems to sense something greater behind it which he has glimpsed before, but maybe cannot pull himself into all alone.

From Provo's latest online document:
http://www.markprovo.com/Explanation.html
I know all about Jones’ teaching, having been fully immersed in it for five years (I was saved from this by a direct intervention of the actual Supreme Being on October 16, 1996). I have read and thoroughly studied all of the books. I have been to the Mountain of Attention, and even went alone into the meditation hall at the Man of Understanding Retreat Center (through an unusual circumstance created by the actual Supreme Being). I have been to the “Tumomama sanctuary” in Hawaii. I have heard tapes, seen videos, and read information (“notes,” etc.) that is usually inaccessible to people who are not formal devotees, through one uniquely created circumstance after another (I did not know it then, but the Lord was gathering intelligence for our later work on this). I spent a great deal of time at the Seattle ashram house. I met many of the leading figures in the community. I am 100% equipped to address you in regard to this matter. I almost became one of you. I know that you are good, well-meaning people, and am saddened that your lives have been hijacked by this false cult leader. It took me a total of 16 years to develop the full comprehension and proof needed to deal with this, and now everything is in place. Given the complex power of Jones’ written works, only such an overwhelming (and ultimately scientific) proof can break your attention free from it.

Mark Provo, did you get burned in Adidam? It is time for you to stop posting this crap online and start posting here with the rest of us telling us what you think is going on here. And for that matter, you do tell us that you were in Adidam up until 1996, in your letter. What happened on October 16, 1996, that you suddenly found yourself free of Adi Da's influence? It is time for you to begin talking openly and end this ridiculous theorizing about numbers and synchronicity in world events, because you cannot see what you are caught up in obviously. So, please pick yourself up now, and out with it - speak plainly, please. If you want to address me directly here, then please do.

What exactly is going on here, when someone shows up claiming to be Shiva himself (locked in his hotel room solving mathematical proofs) and pointing out the endless insignificances of numbers and synchronicity in world events - in which people all die tragically! - and points the finger at Adi Da as the one source of evil in this world? Can you imagine what must be in that person's psyche? (Aside from the obvious need for money?!)

Now admittedly, we have all been doing this - finger pointing - here to some extent as long as we have all been posting. And in jest, obviously, except when these ideas have taken on a life of their own during the past few years and the anger or frustration has erupted into simple persecution and blame - scapegoating, actually. Who is there to check this? Elias? Ourselves?

Honestly, what has all this guru-bashing actually done for anyone involved here? Because it certainly has little to do with the actual bhakti traditions of India, of which I do know at least a little bit actually. But it is really only a very infinitesimally small bit.
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[Ranter]

Looks like a case of channeling, misdirected inflation and psychosis.
Certainly an interesting and wierd place to be!

But it cannot be understood by only taking it up with Mark. Certainly not in a sane "debate". Someone in the channeling mode is not merely the guy in the hotel room. He's someone who is also an open television screen for a whole lot of other wierd shit.

Syncronicity and telepathy reinforce the spiritual "validity" of this condition. And that tends to encourage perpetuating it.

But as you see very little that is clear or useful comes out of it.

The bulk of it is probably not externally sourced "voices", or beings (Supreme or otherwise) but rather elements of the base personality, his internal fears and angers taking on mind forms.

With syncronicity, there is probably also some subtle (intermediate zone) content coming through, and YES, a play of the SHIVA archetype!

Is there anything Dark in any of this? Anything to be feared? Is it not, on the contrary a worthy case of the spiritual seeker doing the science of spiritual research.

Only the the deluded channels are beholden to their notions of dark dangers.

Mark is.

Frank too.

But what danger to they pose to us?

None!

On the contrary we can all learn from their experience, and their examples.
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[JayaHanuman]

Note: See the time of my original post above, Posted: 01/21/07, 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Mr. Mark Provo, The Actual Supreme Being?

1+21+7=29, and 12+17=29, 2+9=11, and 11x2=22, 2+2=4, just as 29+29=58, and 5+8=13, so 1+3=4, and 4 is exactly the number of Heart Thorns in the Hridaya-Rosary. Count'em--Four Thorns of Heart-Instruction on a Rose. http://www.dawnhorsepress.com/products/ProductDetail_Main.asp?PID=2207

And four is the number of times that your credit card cannot be charged without the detection of fraud being too obvious. 4 x $29.95=$119.80 But $29.95 is the base price you will pay for Four Thorns of Heart-Instruction, whether you like it or not. $29+$29=$58 but $58+$1.90=$59.90 which adds up to 23. 23 is the secret recurring dynamic number of the universe, and is about to be revealed in a new movie that is coming out on February 23, 2007, The Number 23, starring Jim Carrey. "Jim" is also the same name as another guy named "Jones" and in the film The Number 23...

See for yourself.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809356682/photo/970415916

"A man's life unravels after he comes into contact with an obscure book titled The Number 23. As he reads the book, he becomes increasingly convinced that it is based on his own life. His obsession with the number 23 starts to consume him, and he begins to realize the book forecasts far graver consequences for his life than he could have ever imagined."
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809356682/info
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[dcb]

Maybe the best outcome is for Mark and Frank to make up and form a "spiritual" partnership, dividing the spoils of Adidam between them. Maybe Mark IS frank's guru. LOL.

IMO, they're both lost causes, completely seduced by subtle phenomena, forever battling demons of their own making.

JH: now YOU'RE the one coming up with interesting, but in my view specious associations! IMO, the Lopez Island incident was precipitated by the particularly low O2 levels in the Gulf of Mexico that year. Part of a broader El Nino pattern. :-)

I suppose the best thing for me to do is withdraw my attention from this matter. Is there anything better to meditate on than these two morbid, self-possessed entities?

Where's Da Fire/Jared when you need him? Where does he stand on the Mark Provo controversy? :-)

Peace

[JayaHanuman]

Are you kidding? Provo is totally irrelevant to Jared Kimble/Da Fire. Anyone can see that. Jared is the only one with any juice at all among these other spiritually retarded. (Just listen to the Sunday morning message on the radio, as I am doing today.) Too bad Jared is not yet sitting in the circumstance of devotion to Himself.

I like tchii's comment here:

http://lightmind.com/archives/daism-12/daism-12.mv?module=view&viewid=7658&row=
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[Coyote]

What are your credentials? Have you actually studied schizophrenia at a school of psychology? Where is your degree? Do you know psychosis from experience? If not, why do you pose as some expert on the subject? I have studied schizophrenia both from what little volunteer work and as a basic practicum of my Bachelor of Science in Psychology. I have read several books on the subject and have talked to those considered schizotypal.

Seriously, this has nothing to do with schizophrenia or psychosis. And even if it did, who the hell are you to pronounce your judgments since you have no background to speak of in psychology? And why is it anyone else's business unless they've studied it? The only person here I'm aware of who's actually has worked with schizophrenics is marshall matt dharma, and of all people he has the least to say about the subject. Why? Probably because he's dealt with real schizophrenics and you haven't... you just have some notion about it and are giving your guess on the matter.

I can tell this 'talk' about schizophrenia (your insensitive label 'psychotic') shows your inexperience; actual psychologists deal with this matter on a day-to-day basis. It's an actual disease. The fact that it is slung around as some kind of insult is a sign that you have no experience ot speak of on the subject and that actual sufferers of schizophrenia have not brought it on themselves; it is an inherited disease like cancer or depression. The fact that you wield the word 'psychosis' around like it's some 'evil thing' is a sign that you have as much knowledge on the subject as a 13th century peasant who'd like to burn witches because of some perceived evil. Do yourself a favor and read a book about it or, hell, check out the 'net

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

I heard BY give his educated guess on the 'problem' of homosexuality -- wow, dude it's not 1952 anymore.

[Elias]

Coyote ~

Hmm. Are you and experts on experts?

[richlip]

Hey! He can't be the Absolute Supreme Being.
I am the Absolute Supreme Being!!!!! Now how many exclamation points do I need for you to believe me?
lmao

[JayaHanuman]

Actual Supreme Being.

Feel free to email the editor of the Oregonian article, if you think he must know about your status.
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[Broken Yogi]

This thread is hilarious, and the funniest thing about is it that my next door neighbor in the house I grew up in back in Westport, CT, was a kid named, get this, MARK PROVO! OH MY GOD! Did I grew up next door to the Absolute Supreme Being without even knowing it? Oddly enough, my Mark Provo would be almost precisely the same age as this Mark Provo. However, doing a little research, I learned that this Mark Provo grew up on Oregon. Phewww! But then again, I may not be out of the woods yet Maybe I grew up next door to the inverse Mark Provo! That would explain everything! I grew up with the inverse Mark Provo, and ended up a devotee of the inverse God, Adi Da! The only question I have is, where is the inverse Broken Yogi? Any math wizzes out there who can figure this out?

[richlip]

Orazzib world!!

[MProvo]

To any people who find this posting thread by searching my name on the Internet:

In January 2006 I prepared a document that organized material realized through my work of the past 13 years with the intention of helping people see through the cult mind control within the groups of Franklin Jones ("Adi Da") and Andrew Cohen. I was peripherally involved with the Jones material for several years in the 1990s, but was never formally involved with those people in any way. This posting forum was a main place to provide information about this document. What I did not realize at the time was the degree of mental illness involved in the people who post here. Anyone can see from reading the ridiculous posts placed here that they are in the crazy category. What any reader should know is that the various charges leveled against me are simply made up by the posters, and have no basis in fact. I am nothing like the person they supposedly describe. None of them know me in any way whatsoever. One person claimed that I said I am personally "the actual Supreme Being." I have never said this nor would I. It is true that I regard my work of the past many years as coming from the Supreme Being, but only in the sense that I serve that Reality in an attempt to get this new and clarifying material in place, including the full mathematical and scientific apparatus that proves it. It was a mistake to post in this forum, and I will do so no longer after this post. My good intentions to try to help liberate the cult members has backfired, placing this garbage about me on the Internet which people may find by searching my name. Those who are unaware of this group (now called "Adidam") would not be aware of the magnitude of the insanity that goes on, and how people with unbalanced minds are attracted to it. I studied the material as part of a curriculum I went through in which I studied everything in these areas, not just this.

Please find out who I actually am, and what I am actually saying, instead of believing the nonsense written about me here. These people have a true capacity for mischaracterizing any subject or person. I have excellent letters of recommendations and references that disprove all of this.

Mark Provo

[Patton]

That was very interesting jayahanuman,very good!As far as the Lopez Island event,I believe it was caused by overindulgence in drugs,booze and sex and a simple heartattack also brought on by flatulance.All the myths he made up surrounding it are pure unadulterated bullshit.