Re: Propaganda and "Fully" Vetted"
Dear Mr. Dunkelberger,
As you can see, your entire response to Elizabeth Larson, reporter for the Lake County News article sounds like a piece of pure propaganda to me: http://lakeconews.com/content/view/6664/764/
Your comments are so ridiculous that I don't know where to begin. I was the person who did all the so called "vetting" in Lake county (which covered all of California and Southern Oregon and every world-wide devotee who came to Lake County) for the last 5 years before leaving your community in 2003 (after being in it for 26 years). I did all the intake evaluations on all the new devotees and did all the transitions at every beginning level.
However, having said that, I do have a few more questions to pose in regard to the accuracy of your facts.
You say that devotees were "fully vetted" and "informed of their responsibilities" and "then they make their free choice" in Adidam.
Now that is a bunch of crap and propaganda so that Adidam can absolve itself from any responsibility and always place the blame on the devotees and ex-devotees for what ever happens. Ever since the Jonestown incident in 1978 and the mid-eighties law suits, Adidam has gone into the paranoid mode with this kind of crap and you are just regurgitating it.
The Wikipedia definition: Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness.
Well, true vetting with honesty and integrity would also include the process working both ways --especially when you include "being informed of their responsibilities". Did that include telling the prospective devotee that their responsibilities were to get drunk and give Adi Da (aka Franklin Jones) "blow jobs" or turn over their partners to him according to his whims? In other words, is Adidam also vetted to the new devotee. So, does the new devotee hear the whole story from Adidam or just what you want him or her to hear? And if so, why has there been so many defections?
As I review the so called vetting process today (5 years after having left Adidam), all I see there is an indoctrination process for the benefit of Adidam and Adi Da. And this topic is too long and complex to post here at this time but a couple of things stand out as I reread it.
1- The 6 page Financial Contribution Form with Itemized Expenses is interesting to look at... Yes , well vetted, you are right at the financial end --very thorough...with even almost more information than I give to my accountant ---starting with total gross monthly income----- with the purpose of getting very cent out of them. Yes, those poor suckers---and I have apologized to many of them for having put them though the ringer and I apologize again. Some of them were in tears during the financial "consideration" ---but for "god" they were willing to do anything and even lie about their finances.
2- I'll post the part of the so called “vetted/background check” that I always found the most humorous: It was in regard to sexually and the questions were:
Do you have an intimate sexual relationship right now?
How many sexual relationships have you had in your life?
Length of time?
______more than 10 years,
______more than 5 years.
______more than 1 year.
______less than one month.
What is your longest period of celibacy?
Longest continuous sexual relationship?
Longest period of monogamy?
Tests for HIV and other infectious/sexual transmitted disease were required and we all knew why this was important????
(Of course, Franklin had herpes and transmitted it to some woman ---no vetting there, was there???).
So, to this day, I still don't know exactly why we needed to know how many sexual relationships prospective devotees had? Is this called "fully vetted"?
As I said, we certainly "vetted" the money end of things on those poor naive seekers looking to be saved by the messiah. And as stated in the definition above. For their assets, (per Wikipedia definition above), they were very well vetted. Money always came first.
If they had something to offer to Adidam in addition to money such as fame, prestige, contacts, skills, labor, etc., they were well vetting about their assets if it benefited Adidam or Adi Da ----or not so well vetted if we really wanted them in Adidam for other reasons. So, how well were the rich and famous vetted? How well was Ken Wilbur vetted? In any case, I don't remember doing "background checks" in the real sense of the word.
Then it says in the Lake County News article: "By the time Dunkelberger joined Adidam, the controversy had passed"- But he controversy hadn't passed and still hasn't. You were too naive to observe it (or kept in the dark).
..... and -Dunkelberger said: "The community has long moved past that period; if there is any residual effect it's an effect among people who are not in the community." He added, "This is not even spoken about any more."
Well, these are pretty dumb comments. Of course it is not spoken about in the community. That is what is called denial. It's denial of the long term history which translates also into denial of the recent negative history of Adidam (and there is plenty of negative recent history which hasn't been posted yet). Adidam members go into dumb mode or automatic denial mode and that is why there is no growth in Adidam and never will be in a fundamentalist cult.
And then Dunkelberger says: "the members closest to Adi Da in Fiji are the most advanced practitioners". Now that is a huge illusion on your part and another bit of propaganda. I know most of them and they are the most brainwashed people that I have ever met including his 2 wives. They (his 2 wives) were pathetic to listen to when they came here from Fiji in 2002 constantly saying that Adi Da is suffering because we were not practicing-----like a broken record.
So again, Mr. Dunkelberger, I suggest that you call up the reporter of Lake County News and revise your facts or at the very least try to make it look like it's not propaganda for your own sake. It's an insult to her (reporter) and to all member of Lake County who know better. Do you really think that Lake County citizens believe that Adi Da with all his debauchery over 38 years that he was the one and only god --past, present, and future-- over Jesus, Buddha’s and all the great sages who have ever lived.
In your response to the reporter you tried to diffuse the negative issues as past history and as a struggle between Adidam devotees vs. bad dissidents/ex devotees. But that is not the case at all. The thousand of ex-devotees are simply exposing what they know mostly out of integrity (and of course, other reasons).
It is estimated that less than 10% of all the devotees have remained in the cult over the last 38 years So are you saying that many of the 90% (the ones who left) are lying (out of the thousands who came through Adidam in 38 years). Now that is preposterous if you even think that but apparently you do.
But the bigger issue which you don't seem to understand is that your small group of 1,000 or so devotees claim something that the other 6.8 billion on the planet don't believe in or agree with. So it's not only Adidam devotees vs. thousands of ex-devotees but it is also Adidam devotees vs. the rest of the world (including the people in Lake County). This is something you don't want to admit. Other than your small group, no one believes in that crap. --Wake up!
Since I've left Adidam, I've had open and honest conversations with literally over a thousand people in Lake County and almost without exception everyone thinks Adi Da was a nut case. What do you expect them to say when a guy who led a life full of debauchery and a teaching that doesn't make much sense altogether said that he was the god of all gods above every other great teacher including Jesus and Buddha ---of course, he is seen as a nut case (which he was). With your fundamentalist view, you will never know this because no one outside of Adidam will talk to you openly in order not to offend you.
So don't blame the thousands of ex-devotees as dissidents. The whole world disagrees with your fundamentalist views and the character of Franklin-–and big time.
Now, another question comes up in my discussion here in Lake County with the public and that is: What does it say about the seeker/believer/follower who believes in this kind of fundamentalist viewpoint (that Franklin is the only god and can do anything in the name of “Crazy Wisdom"). How do you think the citizens of Lake County respond to that? Well, in general, it's not very flattering what they say about the devotee views and I'll leave it at that... And again, what do you expect?
Maybe Elizabeth Larson from the Lake County News can do her own survey on both of these point: 1) the response by citizens to the claim that Franklin Jones was a godman and the first, last and only messiah who has ever lived and 2) find out what people think of those who call themselves devotees of Adidam and who believe that their guru is god and the only god ever...and she could publish that.
Excuse the insult but once you are free of the childish cult mentality and no longer so naive, you obviously see it for what it is --- a delusion of grandeur by Franklin and an illusion by the devotee--- as most of the thousands of ex-devotees now see it ----and public people see it that way also.
Raymond
p.s.: Even his photo in the article is a piece of propaganda; an image of years ago. We all know what he looked like when he died and he didn't look good at all.
So do you really believe as you said: "that then they make their free choice”? What free choice???? It 's propaganda all along.

...oneLove

